WoB Talk

December 1, 2008

December 1 – 13, 2008

Filed under: Uncategorized — Kari Maaren @ 2:05 am

Hey, SunshineRain…remember those comments of yours that disappeared?  WordPress thought they were spam and deleted them.  I’ve now restored them (they may or may not appear quite yet); with luck, you won’t have any more problems.

Marking is making my brain hurt.



  1. Forget subtlety; Casey is showing signs of needing to be whacked smartly over the head with that accordion. Repeatedly, if necessary.

    Comment by Shoebox — December 1, 2008 @ 2:58 am

  2. Yes! *kicks Casey in the shins*

    Comment by moose — December 1, 2008 @ 4:28 am

  3. I am going to think about this. And I am going to come up with a conclusion. Or two. Or three. Or twelve.

    Comment by Erwaro — December 1, 2008 @ 5:25 am

  4. What are you going to think about, Erwaro?

    I’m enjoying the muttering against Casey. It is becoming more and more inventive as it progresses.

    Comment by Kari — December 1, 2008 @ 5:32 am

  5. Thanks Kari, I hope someone from the phorum don’t get wind of this.

    Wonder why Casey is being so unforgiving about this, he seem to be a let bygone be bygone kinda guy.

    Comment by SunshineRain — December 1, 2008 @ 12:51 pm

  6. Marie: “I’m fine. When you’re not playing devilish tricks on me. Or a poor mouse. Or Barbara. Or anyone.”

    Comment by nobilis — December 1, 2008 @ 12:55 pm

  7. Beautiful new banner! (Or has it been there longer?)

    Comment by nobilis — December 1, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

  8. Nobilis: Thanks. No, it’s new; it’s my annual Christmas banner (a bit more somber than usual).

    Comment by Kari — December 1, 2008 @ 1:16 pm

  9. Good. I was afraid I had been so curious for the comics that I had overlooked a new banner.
    I like it very much, better than any other hitherto. And I’m trying to speculate about future events, based on the fact that Casey and Marie are furtively looking at each other …

    Comment by nobilis — December 1, 2008 @ 6:49 pm

  10. Again: Casey, you blockhead.

    Marie: Fine, when you’re not trying to get me committed.

    Wait… maybe this is a cunning plan to make her go see a psychiatrist??

    Comment by earthgirl — December 1, 2008 @ 8:35 pm

  11. “Wait… maybe this is a cunning plan to make her go see a psychiatrist??”

    Why, that IS an idea!

    Comment by nobilis — December 2, 2008 @ 10:29 am

  12. It’s intriguing…but wouldn’t Barbara and Rahim (and probably Frankie) have to be in on it as well for maximum effectiveness?

    Comment by Shoebox — December 2, 2008 @ 2:30 pm

  13. They would. But at least Rahim would probably refuse to join in a devilish thing like that – even if it’s well meant.

    Comment by nobilis — December 2, 2008 @ 6:47 pm

  14. “Get thee behind me, Mulligan”? I know I have heard that line before, replacing Mulligan with what Barbara usually call him, but where? Hmmm…

    Comment by SunshineRain — December 3, 2008 @ 10:07 am

  15. Mk 8,33

    Comment by nobilis — December 3, 2008 @ 11:18 am

  16. Not to brag, but, as of 12:30 pm eastern time today, I AM DONE MARKING FOR THE SEMESTER.


    Comment by earthgirl — December 4, 2008 @ 6:52 pm

  17. Bragger!

    Comment by neuroendograd — December 5, 2008 @ 6:21 pm

  18. I agree with neuroendograd.


    Comment by Kari — December 5, 2008 @ 6:22 pm

  19. GO MARIE!!!

    Actually, this whole thing is sounding uncomfortably like some fallings out I’ve had with people…

    Comment by earthgirl — December 8, 2008 @ 3:08 pm

  20. I’d like to see Casey’s side of this. Marie does have a history of being dilusional (seeing evil marie) but no evidence that she is dilusional with reguard to imaging other people into what she sees.

    Seems that Casey would be more vocal of his innocence though. Explain that he has no idea what Marie claims he did and that she won’t tell him.

    Comment by Rin — December 8, 2008 @ 8:29 pm

  21. All RIGHT! *Is enjoying this no end, right down to Wolfgang’s polysyllabic protest*

    You know, it occurs to me that we might want to examine the all-just-a-ruse-for-Marie’s-benefit theory more closely after all. I mean, it seems to be working so well…

    I’d like to see Casey’s side of this.

    *nods* The line forms back there. There are nachos.

    Explain that he has no idea what Marie claims he did and that she won’t tell him.

    The one time she tries to explain directly, he cuts her off before she can get the words out. I’m thinking Casey knows exactly what’s going on here, he just isn’t acknowledging it for some bizarre (that is, Casey-esque) reason.

    Comment by Shoebox — December 9, 2008 @ 3:04 am

  22. Ah, the dangers of squash.

    Comment by earthgirl — December 10, 2008 @ 5:05 pm

  23. We’ve always thought it’s about Satanists.

    Comment by earthgirl — December 12, 2008 @ 2:53 pm

  24. Same thing happened to D&D.

    Comment by jekkara — December 12, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

  25. Jekkara: What happened to D&D where now?

    Comment by Kari — December 12, 2008 @ 7:08 pm

  26. I am offering Marie my 2×4 for when she ‘talks’ to Casey. 2x4s are very handy for such occassions.

    Comment by Plantita — December 13, 2008 @ 12:35 am

  27. zuzu’s petals? I don’t remember that part of the movie…

    Comment by earthgirl — December 14, 2008 @ 1:33 am

  28. You…you don’t remember Zuzu’s petals?


    Zuzu’s petals are actually a major plot point. Zuzu gives the petals to her dad to express her love for him; he shoves them in a pocket and forgets their existence, thus symbolically forgetting that his family loves him and setting himself up for his suicide attempt. However, when Clarence works his mojo, practically the first thing George does after searching in vain for his identification is check his pocket. “They’re not there,” says Clarence, and when George asks what he’s talking about, Clarence replies, “Zuzu’s petals.” This is the point at which George starts believing that something odd is going on. The petals become hugely meaningful to him; they represent the family that he can’t quite believe no longer exists. Once he gets back to the “real” world, he check his pocket again and exclaims, “Zuzu’s petals!”

    So, no, I didn’t make the petals up…and, yes, I’ve watched this movie a few too many times. I’m due for my more-or-less-annual viewing soon.

    Comment by Kari — December 14, 2008 @ 1:40 am

  29. I see… I haven’t actually watched this movie since that one time when I was twelve at my grandma’s house, so I’m pretty fuzzy on the details. I remember the overall plot, and the going deaf, and the lassoing the moon… I will, however, be watching the original miracle on 42nd street tomorrow.

    Comment by earthgirl — December 14, 2008 @ 6:36 am

  30. Oh, something, you may be sure of that. Maybe several somethings. In fact, probably several somethings. But, mostly, I know that there is a reason, and that I can, with the proper level of reason, locate something that is almost certainly not that reason, but will still make me feel good about my reasononing skills. Also, I haven’t seen that movie about the good life ever. Is it good?

    Comment by Erwaro — April 12, 2009 @ 4:06 am

  31. Er…what?

    Comment by Kari — April 12, 2009 @ 5:38 am

  32. That movie you were talking about. I haven’t seen it. Also, I saw that you asked a question, and that I had not answered. I believe that I was originally going to figure out why Casey was acting as he was, but it got swept up in my conclusion that it makes evolutionary sense for individual humans to be crazy a decent amount of the time.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 12, 2009 @ 10:47 pm

  33. Ahhhh. You do realise this conversation took place four months ago, yes?

    It’s a Wonderful Life is a fun movie…if you think soul-crushing despair and attempted suicide are fun, that is. I’ve always found it odd that people think of the film as a jolly holiday favourite. It has a nice cathartic bit at the end, but the rest of it is, in my opinion, rather horrifying.

    Comment by Kari — April 12, 2009 @ 10:59 pm

  34. Pfah. Time is nothing to an undergrad. Whatever our subject happens to be has been influencing human events since there were human events to influence, hasn’t it? And I seem to recall reading that it became so beloved because it wasn’t well recieved initially, for excessive sappiness, and they didn’t renew the copyright. TV stations played it for free, and it became known again. Although it could have been something else. Or that could have just been an unusally vivid dream.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 13, 2009 @ 4:10 am

  35. No, you got it right. IAWL only became known as a Christmas classic once television stations started exploiting it. Figures, I guess.

    Actually, whatever your subject happens to be has been influencing human events since before there were human events to influence. Nothing else can explain the sentence, “Since the dawn of time, people have been writing poetry.” News flash, undergrads: there were no people at the dawn of time.

    Comment by Kari — April 13, 2009 @ 6:36 am

  36. But the space debris that would one day result in humanity did exist, and they kind of count as people. You’re not racist, are you? And surely those “people” wrote poetry?

    Comment by Erwaro — April 13, 2009 @ 4:23 pm

  37. It isn’t possible to be “racist” against a species…or, in fact, a piece of space debris. I bear such space debris no malice, but I do think perhaps it was incapable of writing poetry, as the writing of poetry generally requires sentience or, at the very least, a pen.

    Comment by Kari — April 13, 2009 @ 4:36 pm

  38. I would argue that they themselves were the pen, writing great poems of discovery across the vastness of space. Back then, it was original.

    The undergrad mind can think of anything other than personal responsibility.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 13, 2009 @ 6:12 pm

  39. Was a giant space baby involved in the process at any point? Or Vogons?

    Comment by Kari — April 13, 2009 @ 6:24 pm

  40. I believe that Max was presiding over the festivities.

    I have now actually read most of the Hitchhiker series. They didn’t have the third book, but I’ve read the rest. Most supremely excellent. I had thought that the restaraunt existed at the edge of the universe, in a purely physical sense, but I must admit that I prefer the actual location. Gives you hope for the future of all lifekind.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 13, 2009 @ 10:11 pm

  41. Goodness…are you indulging in pop culture, Erwaro? Whatever has happened to you?

    Comment by Kari — April 13, 2009 @ 10:50 pm

  42. I am indulging in pop culture a good amount of time after the movie has come out; I’ve even avoided the crowd of people who were waiting till enough time had passed since the movie came out that they wouldn’t be mainstream. And besides, it’s actually a good series. My objection to the Beatles wasn’t quality so much as a personal difference in taste, although I doubt that I said so at the time. I may have, at that time, been rocketing through the different levels of anti-mainstream, anti-mainstream-anti-mainstream, anti-mainstream-anti-mainstream-antimainstream, and on into infinity. I believe that I eventually decided that summing the infinite series would take effort, and so I elected to become apathetic to the whole business (which was actually the approach of several levels of oposition to mainstream-ness, but I arrived at it through the aplication of actual apathy, so I should be safe). The books fit me very well, in the sense that they are exceptionally random, in the most logical way possible. I was proud when I did a good job of trying to convince my father that they feed NFL players ice cream on the sidelines without having given any prior thought to the subject. I still didn’t convince him, but he was also used to my habit of simply saying the most absurd things I could think of deadpan.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 13, 2009 @ 11:48 pm

  43. Everybody needs to send Erwaro links to Dr. Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog until he runs screaming from the room.

    Comment by Kari — April 13, 2009 @ 11:55 pm

  44. I don’t run screaming from places; I yell at them until they cower in terror. Bring on this awful singing.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 14, 2009 @ 4:21 am

  45. Take that.

    Comment by Kari — April 14, 2009 @ 4:26 am

  46. I think I’ve heard of that guy. Is he well known? And how does the freeze ray work? Presumably it’s just a localized severance of one of the time directing planes, but it’s a pain in the ass to get one that precisely around one subject using advanced equipment in a lab, let alone in a ray.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 14, 2009 @ 4:59 am

  47. I’m sure there’s a complex scientific scientific explanation, but I’m going to have to go with “magic.”

    Comment by Kari — April 14, 2009 @ 11:05 am

  48. But how can he be an evil doctor if he uses magic? It just doesn’t work. He has some explaining to do.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 15, 2009 @ 1:50 am

  49. Well, he has a Ph.D. in Horribleness, you know.

    Comment by Kari — April 15, 2009 @ 2:02 am

  50. Exactly, he should be able to explain these things. And he did the laugh all wrong. The laugh isn’t something you can learn. It has to rise up inside you. If you’ve earned the right to laugh evilly, you will do a good job. Otherwise it just doesn’t work right.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 15, 2009 @ 5:03 am

  51. Not so fast. He gets the laugh right later on, though admittedly, it is after he’s earned the right to do so.

    Comment by Kari — April 15, 2009 @ 12:00 pm

  52. All right then. Good for him. How did he earn that right? I stabbed my brother in the back for mine.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 17, 2009 @ 1:32 am

  53. Dude…he built a death ray. He laughed just before he activated it.

    Comment by Kari — April 17, 2009 @ 1:43 am

  54. Yes, but did it actually work? And that just doesn’t sound that impressive. I mean, sure, it’s nice to be able to kill people, but I prefer the old fashioned methods, preferably something that gives them some time to scream. I mean, any random schmuck can shoot someone; give me a sword any day of the week.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 17, 2009 @ 6:19 pm

  55. It didn’t work quite as he intended it to…but yes, it did work, actually. And there was definitely time for screaming to happen.

    Comment by Kari — April 17, 2009 @ 6:21 pm

  56. Ah, good. It just bugs me when the people that try to do these things go and do them without any style. Break whatever rules you want, of course, that’s the whole point of the line of work, but for heavens sake, rules actually do tend to be there for a reason. Substance is more substantial than style, but it also tends to be dull.

    Comment by Erwaro — April 18, 2009 @ 5:23 am

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