WoB Talk

December 31, 2012

December 31, 2012 – January 6, 2013

Filed under: Uncategorized — Kari Maaren @ 7:07 am

Here begins the second week of the Fourth Great WoB Extravaganza.  What will happen next?  Will Marie be assaulted by any more bad Underworld-related puns?  Stay tuned to find out.

(Incidentally, I tried to write a Rant tonight.  I tried three times.  Each attempt was suffused with self-pity.  Perhaps I’ll be in a better space next week.)

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  1. Can you remind me how a bus transfer works? It’s been awhile.

    Comment by Erin — January 2, 2013 @ 1:48 am

  2. Erin: it depends on where you’re from. The way Marie uses the transfer would work in Vancouver, where transfers are good for a fixed amount of time on any bus or at any SkyTrain station (admittedly, Vancouver’s bus and SkyTrain stations are set up rather differently). In Toronto, however, transfers are extremely specific. You can’t get off a bus, go to a store, then board another bus going in the opposite direction on the same transfer, as you would be able to do in Vancouver. You can use transfers only at certain transfer points (for instance, immediately outside subway stations that don’t have internal bus stations). The bus station Marie is visiting has a ticket taker, meaning that all the buses that stop at the station stop INSIDE it; customers pay at the booth and can then board any bus they choose. There would be no reason for someone showing a transfer (a transfer from where? All the buses have their stops inside) to be waved through.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 2, 2013 @ 1:56 am

  3. Huh the fates, cool

    Comment by Blackwolf3 — January 2, 2013 @ 4:38 am

  4. I’m pretty sure I’m missing or forgetting something, but is there an RSS feed for the comic? I think you said something about that at some point, but I cannot, for the life of me, remember what, or where, or anything.

    Also, fyi, enjoying the comic, keep up the good work, yadda yadda. I may not know much mythology, but the strangeness is rather wonderful. It reminds me of KoL- in chat today, someone said “I know! I need to get silverware that counteracts the emotions of the food!” They said this, and I’m pretty sure it makes sense, and was a powerful insight into how some new content works.

    Strangeness is a wonderful thing.

    It’s like the song says: Banana banana banana banana terra cotta, banana terra cotta, terra cotta pie.

    Comment by Erwaro — January 2, 2013 @ 6:06 am

  5. Erwaro: there’s a link to the RSS feed (which is of the ComicGenesis version of the comic, not the Massey Alumni version; that gives you access to the sequential strips but not to the alt-text, my occasional under-comic comments, or any extras) on the home page at http://www.westofbathurst.com. Scroll down to the two green boxes.

    I’m glad you’re enjoying the strangeness. The comic IS becoming quite, quite strange.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 2, 2013 @ 6:12 am

  6. Okay, so the other bus passengers are analogues for the fates right?

    Comment by mercenarypen — January 2, 2013 @ 10:27 am

  7. Ely station… The Elysian Fields?

    Comment by fan — January 2, 2013 @ 1:14 pm

  8. Mercenary Pen and Fan: yep and yep.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 2, 2013 @ 2:15 pm

  9. …oh, duh. Why on earth did I mentally censor out those boxes?

    That’s really quite impressive. I mean, I scrolled all the way down, I even checked what I assume is the hit counter to see if that might be it, but the big freaking box that says “Hey! Here’s the RSS!” somehow escaped my detection. Like, completely. If it was a snake, it would have bit me. Frankly, it probably would have bitten me several times, and I would have looked around, wondering if I was being assaulted by invisible aliens or something.

    Brains are strange things.

    Also, I have recently learned that my mattress isn’t level.

    Comment by Erwaro — January 2, 2013 @ 4:40 pm

  10. Erwaro: heh. No worries. Brains are funny; they tend to edit stuff out for reasons of their own.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 2, 2013 @ 4:55 pm

  11. Route 13, besides underworld puns are we putting lucky and unlucky numbers into the mix too?

    Comment by blackwolf3 — January 3, 2013 @ 4:11 am

  12. Blackwolf3: I like to chuck all the motifs within reach into a great big metaphorical vat, stir vigorously for a while, and wait to see what emerges.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 3, 2013 @ 4:13 am

  13. must be a big vat, with the whole underworld thrown in

    Comment by blackwolf3 — January 3, 2013 @ 4:14 am

  14. Blackwolf3: indeed.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 3, 2013 @ 4:15 am

  15. Heh, was it a conscious decision to not include the iPhone Maps?

    Comment by SunshineRain — January 3, 2013 @ 6:40 am

  16. SunshineRain: Well, I wasn’t really thinking about it. I don’t have a smartphone myself and only vaguely remember hearing something about iPhone Maps sucking. But let us pretend it was a conscious decision.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 3, 2013 @ 6:47 am

  17. I kind of hope this isn’t all a dream from which Marie will wake up soon…

    Comment by fan — January 4, 2013 @ 12:30 am

  18. Fan: Let me stop you right there. I would never fall back on the “It was all just a dream” plot crutch. I had one plot line that was an extended hallucination, but I made it clear from the beginning that Marie knew that. There have also, of course, been some events that she can’t be sure are real (probably including this one). However, there will never be an incident that Marie thinks is real, then a cut to her waking up in her bed. The hallucinations aren’t cheating (as far as I’m concerned) because they’re part of what Marie’s struggling with, and they inform the plot. Explaining events away as “just a dream” is different. It’s a way of hitting the reset button and not having to deal with consequences. For what it’s worth, what’s happening in the comic right now really is happening.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 4, 2013 @ 12:40 am

  19. Then how is having the greek and roman mythologies mixed with the Barbra’s assostation of Casey being the devil, being part of what Marie is struggling with?

    Comment by blackwolf3 — January 4, 2013 @ 1:51 am

  20. Blackwolf3: I’m not entirely sure what you’re asking. I don’t actually see stories from certain cultures as being completely disconnected from stories from other cultures. There’s stuff in Greco-Roman mythology that corresponds to stuff in fairy tales, epics, the Bible, myths and legends from cultures around the world, and so on. A word I’ve always liked is Kathasaritsagara, the title of an 11th-century collection of Indian stories; a rough translation is “the ocean of the streams of story.” (Salman Rushdie wrote a rather strange and wonderful children’s book about it, actually.) All the stories come out of a common pool of motifs and ideas. I shall blithely mix Ovid and Virgil with the Brothers Grimm and the folklore surrounding the Krampus and feel absolutely no remorse about it.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 4, 2013 @ 2:02 am

  21. Love the unicorn argument. Wanted to let you know, though, that I passed two buildings today that said Massey on them. So if Casey ever really wanted to mess with her head… one was right beside a school.

    Comment by LoreHera — January 4, 2013 @ 2:27 am

  22. Are there unicorns? Where? Where are the unicorns?

    Toronto is full of “Massey”s, mostly because the Masseys are a pretty influential family. There’s Massey College, Massey Hall, Massey Harris Park, Massey Square, and so on. Unfortunately, in Marie’s world, Massey is called Davies, so there’s less of an opportunity for Casey to mess with Marie in that regard.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 4, 2013 @ 2:33 am

  23. Kari, my comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek, because I just figured out the horn and ivory reference (the gates, right?). I was under no impression that you would do anything like that.

    Comment by fan — January 4, 2013 @ 10:32 am

  24. Fan: well, I thought it might be that, but I never miss an opportunity for a good rant. And yes, you’re right about the gates. I’ve always quite liked that bit of imagery, and the part in the Aeneid where Aeneas returns from the Underworld through the gate of ivory (for some unexplained reason) has stuck with me. As well, I’m fond of medieval dream visions, which take the whole “It was all just a dream” thing to ridiculous extremes but do use dreams for actual development, not to explain away difficult bits of the plot. They kind of straddle the line between the real world and the dream world, too.

    Sorry. I guess I’m getting back into Lecturing Mode as the new term looms.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 4, 2013 @ 2:23 pm

  25. I just want to say how happy I am that you turned Toronto into the underworld. It’s very creative.

    Comment by Erin — January 6, 2013 @ 2:11 pm

  26. Erin: I’ve already made Tim Hortons into an otherworldly space. This is just the next logical step.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 6, 2013 @ 3:42 pm

  27. Okay, if Casey won’t go to the hospital, I guess that means the hospital (or at least Rahim) comes to him, right?

    Comment by mercenarypen — January 7, 2013 @ 1:02 am

  28. Mercenary Pen: Nah. This happened to him last year too, and very likely in previous years (though he was in Ireland at the time for those ones). Casey heals fast. At one point, Marie heard him being mauled by something (possibly with tentacles) over the phone, and he showed up a week later with a broken arm. A couple of weeks after THAT, he was fine.

    We’re about to head into a bit of a time skip (because we’ve just spent a month on Christmas Eve/Christmas morning), but never fear: what has happened in the interim will be addressed.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 7, 2013 @ 1:07 am

  29. I only assumed you’d be getting Rahim involved because it made sense to my instinct for imminent punchlines.

    Comment by mercenarypen — January 7, 2013 @ 9:33 am

  30. The form is still on last weeks, Kari

    Comment by blackwolf3 — January 8, 2013 @ 8:05 pm

  31. Hey…sorry about that. I did change it, but apparently, I forgot to save the changes. It’s fixed now.

    Comment by Kari Maaren (@angrykem) — January 8, 2013 @ 8:07 pm


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